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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199064837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199064837">(May 28 2020 at 18:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I was a little off the grid due to the current situation, but that got better for me. Shall we have a kick-off meeting at some time during the next 2 weeks? I'm fine with just chat and would prepare a short list of topics beforehand.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199064858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199064858">(May 28 2020 at 18:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Any preferred doc host?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199065759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199065759">(May 28 2020 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199065864" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199065864">(May 28 2020 at 18:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>by doc host, do you mean for logging internal discussions, e.g. <a href="http://hackmd.io">hackmd.io</a> ? Or do you mean for broader distribution amongst the rustc developers?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199076944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199076944">(May 28 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> yes, something like hackmd, dropbox paper</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199077406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199077406">(May 28 2020 at 20:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay. I can use anything. I suppose I have a slight preference for hackmd, but i will admit that dropbox paper has some advantages (like its comment annotation system)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199079550" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199079550">(May 28 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm very much in the same camp (also with being able to use everything), so hackmd, unless <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> has a preference.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080207">(May 28 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>So, there are advantages and disadvantages to several.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080375" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080375">(May 28 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not a big fan of Dropbox Paper. I tend to prefer hackmd for anything where markdown output is needed, or Google Docs for anything where markdown output is not needed.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080477">(May 28 2020 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>That said, there's one other major downside to hackmd:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080481" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080481">(May 28 2020 at 20:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's hard to <em>find</em> anything.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080556" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080556">(May 28 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I find it incredibly hard to track down documents within hackmd, unless I have an external link for them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080576">(May 28 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we're linking to documents via Zulip, then that should work fine. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080610">(May 28 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm a heavy user of it, and usually, we take a master document and link off there, which works quite well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080625">(May 28 2020 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>If we want to have a folder of documents, or any kind of organization whatsoever besides "that doc I linked to in such-and-such Zulip thread", I tend to prefer Google Drive for that. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080678">(May 28 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span> That can work, as long as we always include the links into the top-level document.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199080694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199080694">(May 28 2020 at 20:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just, easy for things to get lost that way. But if we do it systematically from the beginning that seems fine.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199081454" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199081454">(May 28 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>In any case...the other question is scheduling for a kick-off meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199081463" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199081463">(May 28 2020 at 20:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>Doodle?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199084177" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199084177">(May 28 2020 at 20:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep, doodle would be great. You are based in PST?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199084237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199084237">(May 28 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll create a doc to start from and a doodle tomorrow morning. (put it into my calendar already)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199084305" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199084305">(May 28 2020 at 20:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I cannot remember if you are aware <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span> , but I am now based in EST rather than CET</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199085108" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199085108">(May 28 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, I'm in US/Pacific.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199085119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199085119">(May 28 2020 at 20:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>(It's 1:52pm right now.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199123374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199123374">(May 29 2020 at 07:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> I was indeed not, thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199161583" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199161583">(May 29 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm writing a document later, I hurt my finger, so only light keyboard use :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/199161628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#199161628">(May 29 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>(not badly)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200080692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200080692">(Jun 08 2020 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://hackmd.io/r0QBWkvMSae43pfxNdTf6A">https://hackmd.io/r0QBWkvMSae43pfxNdTf6A</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200080714" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200080714">(Jun 08 2020 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have a notepad document here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200080738" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200080738">(Jun 08 2020 at 10:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Doodle for the first meeting  is here: <a href="https://doodle.com/poll/bnpnr8g6sdhf3yqx">https://doodle.com/poll/bnpnr8g6sdhf3yqx</a> and can also be found in the document. I opted for the approach of having a limited number of days this week and posting a new doodle if we can't find a date.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200080855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200080855">(Jun 08 2020 at 10:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>/cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200091711" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200091711">(Jun 08 2020 at 12:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>Will fill out later today.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200381658" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200381658">(Jun 10 2020 at 06:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've filled out the Doodle, but it doesn't look like there are any other entries on it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200381712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200381712">(Jun 10 2020 at 06:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I'm assuming at a minimum that the meeting is not happening on Wednesday?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200394266" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200394266">(Jun 10 2020 at 09:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> yeah, wednesday is probably off by now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200394290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200394290">(Jun 10 2020 at 09:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>ping <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200415404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200415404">(Jun 10 2020 at 13:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I don’t think the issue number approach is a popular practice; but if we are willing to have our notes linked from that very public space, then it could work in this instance, since we have a github issue already for this topic)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200415405" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200415405">(Jun 10 2020 at 13:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regarding master documents: I tend to like to have those linked from Zulip topic titles, which in turn often leads me to use github issues, of all things, as the landing site, since then the (short) issue number suffices to make the link</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200415406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200415406">(Jun 10 2020 at 13:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I’ll go fill out the doodle now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200421105" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200421105">(Jun 10 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, it looks like Wednesday may actually be a good time after all.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200421133" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200421133">(Jun 10 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm certainly up for meeting today, despite the short notice.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200517510" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200517510">(Jun 11 2020 at 08:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> that's a good point.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200517542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200517542">(Jun 11 2020 at 08:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I picked Friday, 7:30 pm local. Sorry that I wasn't available last night, I left work early and closed the laptop for good ;)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200596810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200596810">(Jun 11 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll watch for the calendar invite.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200612596" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200612596">(Jun 11 2020 at 22:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="215333">@Florian Gilcher</span>  7:30pm which time zone, sorry? I'm trying to figure out when that meeting is going to be so I can schedule another meeting and not have it conflict.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200699113" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200699113">(Jun 12 2020 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> local, berlin</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200699458" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200699458">(Jun 12 2020 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry, I kind of missed this notification and sent out the invite a bit late :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200700543" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200700543">(Jun 12 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>ugh, that's now.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200706803" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200706803">(Jun 12 2020 at 18:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, didn't see the invite.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200861027" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200861027">(Jun 15 2020 at 08:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> Felix and me went ahead with the meeting, but made not decisions,. I'll send a summary later today.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200861045" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200861045">(Jun 15 2020 at 08:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>...at what time?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200871752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200871752">(Jun 15 2020 at 10:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here comes the summary. For reference: <a href="https://hackmd.io/r0QBWkvMSae43pfxNdTf6A?both">https://hackmd.io/r0QBWkvMSae43pfxNdTf6A?both</a></p>
<p>We discussed some workflow things. As much as possible, outside of meeting notes, we'd like to keep it to Zulip+gh issues, if that's fine by you.</p>
<p>We've identified three main topics:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fixing known issues and better documentation (mostly rewriting the copyright file)</li>
<li>Help to Rust developers and teams to improve the licensing situation</li>
<li>Help to Rust users to comply with Rust licensing, through better documentation</li>
</ul>
<p>The linked document has a number of GH issues currently open.</p>
<p>Felix and I tried to find a number of good issues to start working with:<br>
1) bringing <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/rustc-licensing-guidelines--Ao~xMyRsp7cmHLrQtvQPS_eQAg-13Vo9fltFmrsNrFpddiMA">https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/rustc-licensing-guidelines--Ao~xMyRsp7cmHLrQtvQPS_eQAg-13Vo9fltFmrsNrFpddiMA</a> over the finishing line. GH issue: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/220">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/220</a>. This document does not need to be perfect and substantial parts are written.<br>
2) Checking out the rustc_apfloat issues currently: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/55993">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/55993</a>. This issue is a bit annoying, as the license of upstream has moved, and we're unclear about the current situation, that might be an issue where <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> detailed license experience might help.<br>
3) <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-builtins/issues/319">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-builtins/issues/319</a> is a tiny issue that can be worked through. We have someone at hand for a cleanroom implementation, if needed.</p>
<p>We did come up, but not nominate:</p>
<ul>
<li>We need some categorisation of issues, such as "impacts compiler" or "impacts users", graded by severity.</li>
<li>compiler-builtins declares the wrong license: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-builtins/issues/307">https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-builtins/issues/307</a> (this is a bit bigger, but a good one to work through later)</li>
<li>Licensing help for users.<br>
     * This has design space, especially around automation</li>
<li>Rewrite COPYRIGHT file<br>
     * This is a huge task, not good as a starter task</li>
<li>Work through <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63232#issuecomment-517918295">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/63232#issuecomment-517918295</a><br>
     * This needs some planning on which to tackle first, but is also a good "next" task</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200871844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200871844">(Jun 15 2020 at 10:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>There's two questions for <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> that we had in the meeting:</p>
<ul>
<li>What if a upstream library was relicensed after our port, but the relicensing is favourable to us? What's a good strategic approach.<br>
    * This applies to ap_float.</li>
<li>If an MIT library is linked, does the binary need to be shipped with the library information?</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200872231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200872231">(Jun 15 2020 at 10:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's 3:33am right now, but I'd be happy to go through those questions later this week. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off/near/200875167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Florian Gilcher <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/231349-t-core/licensing/topic/Kick-Off.html#200875167">(Jun 15 2020 at 11:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>No rush, please :D</p>



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